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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 11, 2011 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: High Art

I think the 19th century in particular (and the past in general) is horribly misunderstood – straight-jacketed, really. Young people were often criticized in popular magazines for going to the opera too much. (It was seen as part of disreputable "craving for excitement.") I’ve heard from my parents about coal miners and Italian laborers and Polish butchers playing classical music and singing opera arias ... so it clearly wasn't inaccessable or all about stuffy "church manners." And the stereotype of a musician or composer seemed to have been very bohemian and rather suspect -- the guys you don't want around your daughters. Of course, all that has been lost and marble-ized.

Btw, and I doubt very much that anyone who has ever read an interview with Phil would think you can’t be obsessed with classical music and be into the Dead, LOL. I think even the others make the occasional classical reference in interviews. Though I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything from Pigpen in that vein ... come to think of it, ARE there Pigpen interviews?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 11, 2011 10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: High Art

Pigpen WAS interviewed a couple times! - by Creem magazine in 1970, and by Hank Harrison for his book. I have not seen them, though. It's a reminder that MOST Dead history is still buried away in libraries or collections, and is relatively inaccessible to most people - I can only draw on the sliver that's been republished.

Weir has talked the most about his interest in classical music, which seems to be just as direct as Phil's. Offhand I don't remember Garcia ever talking about it.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Aug 11, 2011 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

He took part in this humorous 1966 interview..

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/goodbear/interview66.html

Starts like this:

DJ: ... Around the, uh, table we’ll go, meet first Pigpen. What a horrible name.

Pigpen: Not my fault, Jerry gave it to me.

DJ: What’s your real name?

Pigpen: Ron.

DJ: Ron? Uh, your fan club yesterday or something was telling me you’re 21 years old...

Pigpen: Um-hm.

DJ: You look like 38... what happened, I know.

Pigpen: Umm... couldn’t tell ya.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 11, 2011 11:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen

Oh yes, thanks. Not much of an "interview" really, but I guess as good as we can expect from 1966!

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Aug 11, 2011 9:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: the 1840s make the 1960s look like the 1720s

Indeed, AR, when we study the career of Franz Liszt (who was one of many virtuosos who established the template of the "rock star" as combining libertine sensualism with quasi-religious fervor) or read about the revolutionary struggles of the 1840s in Europe, all stereotypes of "stuffiness" vanish, and are replaced by the red blood of human passions. The 19th century is actually the Romantic era in music, and to my ears, the best composers captured emotional intensity much more clearly in their music than the musical language of today.

I'm also interested in whether or not Pig was ever interviewed. I don't recall ever hearing of such a thing!